Exselsior model id.

[poul b]

Hello. Im new here. I am danish, also live there. I dont have a lot of experiense with forums. so please excuse or tel me if i do ennything wrong {spelling ect}. I have pict up an old excelsior. At first i didnt know what it was. After some searching {alot rather} on the net i identyfied it by the fueltank {room for ampmeter and lightingswitsh}. The frame no is E10/90 witch i think  tells its a 1935 model 10  serial no 90. Can ennyone tel me what it would have looked like as i am unable to find info on this model eccept for one drawing where it is showen  with a two port jap engine. The fueltank on my bike is chromed with pretty lage knee pads {pads missing}. Brake drums are 7" .  The front fork is a Webb populer model. The bike came wih a 600 cc 1935 sidevalve jap motor  no.UCZ/R  44568/SR.  Did excelsior list a sidevalve in 1935?. The gear box witch i dout is correct is an albion  platform mount, {platform at the rear}  Four speed. no hca 856. My aim is to restore the bike. I also own  a norton commando mrk 2a. a 1952 royal enfield 350 bullet that i ride.  a 1952  vincent rapide not running at the moment { faulty crank}. 1953 ariel vb 600 baskit case.  Hope some one knows something about the excelsior. Kind regards poul b

[R]

There is no 600cc listed in this 1935 brochure ?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/EXCELSIOR-Motorcycle-Range-Sales-Brochure-1935-Universal-Bantam-Pioneer-Viking-/200935479525
Which is not to say they didn't make one.

Same seller has had a quite a range of similar brochures,
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n575/mkpooks3/2013/June%202013/MC%20Scats%202/R0197302_zps354cfb68.jpg
email him and ask if he has anything which shows one ?

The VMCC may also have details, and a marque specialist.
Someone here will have more details...

[33d6]

Hello Poul,
Yes, E10/90 identifies a 1935 Excelsior with a twin port OHV JAP engine. Excelsior did not list a big side valve in 1935. Probably some one changed over engines when the original wore out. Side valve JAP engines are much easier to find than OHV and much cheaper. It was an easy fix back when bikes like this had no value. It is also possible someone asked the factory to fit the side valve engine from new. It was very easy for a  factory like Excelsior to fit a different engine if the customer paid for it.
Most probably it was just a cheap engine changeover.
The bike was fitted with an Albion four speed heavyweight box from new. It sounds like yours is the original box.
You will find very little information printed by the Excelsior factory. This doesn't matter as the bike is built up from proprietary components. You just go direct to the supplier, J.A.P engines, Albion gear box, Webb forks and so on.
The Vintage Motor Cycle Club Library has plenty of information to get you started. You can find them at vmcc.net.uk
Best of luck.

[poul b]

Hello. Menny thanks for info. After the info and further seach on internet i feel pretty shure its a 1935 model no E10 Power-Plus 500cc twinport jap.     Oiltank   magneto   carb   front and rear chainguard   rearstand  seat  clutchcover   clutch an brake leaver handlebar etc. and the 500 twinport jap. are missing.   I think i will start putting it together with the side valve that came with the bike, then try and find a twinport if possible.  if ennyone has enny parts or knows where to get hold of some ore maybee even an engine i would be very greatful.   I have famely in England that i visit. so pickup could be aranged. Thanks again for info. Best regards poul b.

[rogerwilko]

Is the engine total loss oiling or does have a plunger pump?

[poul b]

Hi Roger   not sure what you mean,   The sidevalve that came with the bike i beleave is a dry sump engine, it has the pump mounted outside the engine and pipes for an oiltank

[rogerwilko]

A picture would help.

[glaser 31]

Sorry to say,Excelsior did make a 600 SV in 1935.
Pouls model is a model E13 with the correct engine it left the factory with.
The number 10 dont show the model if you think that.

regards


Hello Poul,
Yes, E10/90 identifies a 1935 Excelsior with a twin port OHV JAP engine. Excelsior did not list a big side valve in 1935. Probably some one changed over engines when the original wore out. Side valve JAP engines are much easier to find than OHV and much cheaper. It was an easy fix back when bikes like this had no value. It is also possible someone asked the factory to fit the side valve engine from new. It was very easy for a  factory like Excelsior to fit a different engine if the customer paid for it.
Most probably it was just a cheap engine changeover.
The bike was fitted with an Albion four speed heavyweight box from new. It sounds like yours is the original box.
You will find very little information printed by the Excelsior factory. This doesn't matter as the bike is built up from proprietary components. You just go direct to the supplier, J.A.P engines, Albion gear box, Webb forks and so on.
The Vintage Motor Cycle Club Library has plenty of information to get you started. You can find them at vmcc.net.uk
Best of luck.

[R]

How do we know this is a matching engine ??

[glaser 31]

My Word,if thats fine enough  ore the dealers (factory)sales list over Excelsior for Denmark-Sweden-Norway-and some for Finland

[poul b]

I have bean in contact with a guy here in denmark that deals in old motorcycles |I asked him if he could id my bike by the frame no. He said  coul my in a week ore so and il see what i can find out.  when i could him he said if the 3 last digits in your engine is 568 you have the original engine for your bike. So its not a powerplus as i thouhgt but apparently a model 13. Wonder what would have looked like!. Stil think the gearbox is wrong for the bike as its a platform mount at the rear of the box. regards